Beesotted contributor Jim Levack believes Brentford’s poor run of form as of late is not so much down to the manager – but more down to the tools he has had to work with.
Dean Smith’s critics, conspicuous by their absence while Brentford were winning, took just minutes to pop their heads above the parapet after the Norwich capitulation.
Question marks over his future, his ability to motivate the players and his apparent failure to get his side up and at ‘em from the first whistle were all trending on social media.
To my mind only one of those criticisms – the last – has any merit in the real, unemotional world because Smith is a good manager, a good man and a good fit for Brentford right now.
He has though, been sold down the river by an average to middling recruitment policy which now sees us looking weaker on the pitch than we did a year ago, despite his understandable protestations to the contrary.
Smith has to say we are developing and growing stronger because to say otherwise would be tantamount to treason and could potentially cast grave doubt on the likes of Rasmus Ankersen and Phil Giles.
But I watched a re-run of our 4-1 win at Fulham on You Tube the other day and the football was on a different level. Prichard to Odubajo to Dallas to the Spanish lad who bizarrely is still on our books but doesn’t actually play for us!
The football was crisp, incisive and combined pace with guile. We’ve seen it this season but only in flashes as the nucleus of that side was torn asunder with the replacements either inferior or ‘ones for the future’.
Alex Pritchard, the architect-in-chief of our destruction at Carrow Road, has yet to be replaced with anyone capable of sitting behind the striker and threading the kind of balls Scott Hogan could thrive off.
Hogan has scored some great goals this season DESPITE the system and not because of it. He is largely isolated, receives sporadic service, can expect little from the flanks and as a result gets caught offside far too often as he strives to seek any slight advantage he can.
But, and this is a big but, that is not Smith’s fault. He can only play the system the personnel available allows him to and with only one recognised striker on the books, what option does he have?
Lasse Vibe, on his day, is a superb footballer but his day doesn’t come often enough and he’s certainly no centre forward. Philipp Hofmann has, so far, failed to fulfil the hype delivered after that Under 21 goal against England at Wembley.
Imagine the situation. Hogan seriously injured at Norwich. Out until March. It doesn’t bear thinking about. He has 11 goals and the nearest contender is John Egan with three.
In every business there needs to be an element of resilience but Brentford have none, and the longer that goes on the more disaffected Hogan is likely to become. Despite the fact that he comes across as a hugely principled bloke keen to repay the club’s fantastic loyalty, patience is a currency that can run out quickly.
At this stage it’s important to remember that the players who did so well earlier in the season haven’t turned bad overnight. They are good, talented footballers easily capable of finishing towards the top end of a competitive Championship once confidence returns… and it will with back to back wins.
But where is the pressure being put on Hogan, why is our midfield easily bullied, why have we yet to replace key players like for like? All valid questions being posed by disgruntled Bees fans after the Norwich game, which incidentally I walked out of at 88 minutes with the catcalls of the Norwich supporting corporate box ringing in my ears.
A significant number of the players brought in during the summer were those identified by Smith himself – Sawyers, Henry and possibly Egan. They were all permanent signings, which is great because they will prove to be assets long term.
However, why when a need for two pacy wingers capable of running at defences and unlocking ‘park the bus two banks of four’ was clearly stated by the club in the summer, have we yet to sign one? Sullay Kaikai is definitely one for the future but doesn’t look ready to me yet.
Brentford’s transfer policy is sound, don’t get me wrong. But creating that perfect blend by complementing them with the right type of Premier League loan players – like Pritchard – seems to have slipped beyond our grasp. Have our relationships with Premier League clubs turned sour and if so why?
Is this the job of Rasmus Ankersen, a guy who always looks and sounds very impressive at the fans’ forums? That’s a genuine question. If it isn’t his job then who’s is it and why have they failed to do it since Smith arrived?
Here’s the nitty gritty. Midfield, once a steady source of goals, now prefers to maintain possession and when the likes of Yennaris and Woods do get within sniffing distance of the box they too often fail to let fly when no Brentford fan worth his or her salt would condemn them for having a dig even if it flies high wide and handsome.
January needs to see those holes in recruitment addressed but before then the fans need to stand shoulder to shoulder with the players to let them know we do appreciate they are good players lacking in confidence… starting this Saturday.
But above all before people start calling for Smith’s head they should seriously consider the kind of support he has actually had in the transfer market. Otherwise, his departure would be little more than scapegoating and where is the long term benefit of that?
Jim Levack
@jimblee1
Do you agree with Jim – that recruitment has let Dean Smith down – or do you think Dean Smith has the players and is out of his depth? Discuss in the comments below.

With the exception of Vibe on his day “being a superb footballer”, I agree with much of this, especially about the DOFs who really will need to pull their finger out in January. Once again their efforts are being questioned.
i take what you say about Smith too, Jim, but you have to admit that the fans for whatever reason have never really warmed to him. As an example, have you ever heard his name sung during a game? Is it that they see him as uninspiring? Possibly.
One way or the other, next week is huge, and it is vital he gets team selection right.
Regards
Gordon
With McCormack coming back the midfield will hopefully be a lot more solid and gritty …since Douglas left we haven’t been tough enough in many games and we get bossed about too easily …judge is back training ..we need him back asap .. we should keep him to the summer otherwise I fear we will go down ….I think smith is a good manager but i agree it’s the poor standard of players recruited ..where’s those crosses from bidwell ????we should of kept him .. one win in 10 is sackable so it may happen ….I think he’s got till new year fa cup 3rd round …..
Probably a bit of both. But Smith doesn´t appear to have settled on his first choice midfield 5, the pack gets shuffled every week.
Vibe, despite his goals last season, shouldn´t be starting on current form. Woods and Nico aren´t working as a pair. I´d rather see Macca in for one of them.
Let´s hope we see some new bodies in this Jan…..or even better the return of Judge and Jota.
I’ve commented elsewhere Jim, because what don’t understand is that, with the exception of McCormack yesterday’s side was the one that beat high flying Reading not so long ago, so we do have the players who can perform. So why the rapid decline?
I don’t think the squad is as bad as you make out. We’ve shown that when we play a quick pressing, high tempo game with good movement off the ball we can be a match for anyone (prob bar Newcastle). This, in fact (I believe) is the basis of our club ‘footballing philosophy’ and indeed is the style the ‘B’ team seem to be perfecting. Yet DS doesn’t appear to agree with this. So often we’re set up negatively and defensively, sitting deep and letting the opposition play in front of us and trying to counter in slo-mo.
I can’t believe that this is a unilateral decision by the players to play this way every time they step on to the hallowed turf at GP so it must be tactical despite Smiths protestations to the contrary. His defensive mindset is also given away by his substitutions or lack of. Never inspiring and rarely successful and often mind boggling and late. Hoffman finally managed more than 5 minutes chasing a game on sat but then game was lost by then.
DS has been here a year now and despite the fact that the club has a ‘preferred football philosophy’ or style as mentioned earlier I don’t think anyone could tell you what Smith’s was. I’m not sure Smith knows himself, he certainly has no idea of what his best 11 is or how to get the best out of them..
Matthew Benham has a difficult decision to make. We clearly need to spend a little money in January to boost our attacking and defensive mid options but does anyone have any confidence that Smith will be able to fit them in or get the best out of them? Are we better off cutting our losses and allowing a new man to plan for next season? Sadly we have let Pedersen go as I think he’d have been a superb caretaker manager. Every interview with him provided a clear insight into what he was after from his side and where they’d gone wrong. This in stark contrast to Smiths bland assertions that we’ll just have to work harder and something I think most of the first team squad would appreciate.
So in conclusion, in answer to the question in the title of this blog, my mind is inevitably drawn to an age old British saying;
‘A bad workman blames his tools’
Couldn’t agree more. Smith took on a role where he would be the coach of a squad assembled for him. This was quite open and honest from the outset. He therefore needed to be the man-manager, the motivator, the inspiration, the gel that links it all together, regardless of what is put in front of him, yet when we are in a ‘battle’ of 2 massively off form teams as of yesterday, where if you set your team up for a dog fight, a scrap, a messy, get stuck in first half an hour, get the home crowd anxious and turning on their players and then see where it goes but no, we went out like meek little lambs or puppies who rolled over to get their bellies tickled. It was mortifyingly embarrassing how we capitulated. The cross for the first goal never got picked up by either centre back and no movement towards the ball occurred til it was too late and then an OG from Egan, who has been immense for most of the season.
So we’re a goal down, we need inspiration, we need a kick up the arse, we need motivating but after 25 mins, we find ourselves 2-0 down and Dean Smith is stood with his arms behind his back, standing bolt upright in total quietness, like he’s still observing the previous to the games minutes silence. All players, senior and most importantly the junior ones are looking for guidance but he offers nothing, never has done since he arrived. His team talks must be monotone and dull to the extreme. His tactics, well, I am unaware of these having watched it for a year and still none the wiser. His post match interviews of ‘we go again next week. We learn from it and improve on the training ground’ are boring and meaningless as it never shows fruition to do so. I totally agree that we haven’t warmed to him but he’s given us no reason to do so.
The most important person on a match day is the manager as he sets the tone, pace and outlook of the entire team. The reason Ferguson had United battling against everybody week in week out cos they were so ‘hated’, they weren’t but he instilled it in them to be like that. Well Smith has us beaten by his demeanour before every game. He’s drab, he’s bland, he’s uninspiring, he lacks motivation and his is not since yesterday I have felt this, it has been almost from the very outset of his reign. He got very very lucky toward the end of last year when McEachran with all his equally uninspiring and bland sideways and backwards passing football, got injured and forced Smits hand to finally leave him out meant we got more positive, when on a winning run and then survived what could have easily been a relation battle but this year we are definitely in one. We didn’t just get beaten yesterday, we failed to produce anything of worth. Did we have a shot on target? Do we look like we have goals in us? Are we horrible to play against? Do we get in people’s faces? Or do we do what Smith sets us up to do and that’s be bland, dull, uninspiring and to go down without a fight and with our arms folded neatly behind our backs and almost apologetic that we have bothered to turn up to even dispute the 3 points on offer but that we’re happy the opposition have taken it off us.
If I thought Smit had it in him to do something this season, the next, the year after, I’d be less apoplectic but he doesn’t, he won’t and he never will have. Perhaps he’s ‘too’ nice but we don’t need too nice right now, we need to be nasty and to dig deep and with Smith in our corner with a proverbial white towel in his hand tucked behind his back, then we have no hope. None.
If we go a goal down next week at home to Burton, it turns toxic on him. He couldn’t handle that either. Make the call this week and thank him for another experiment that hasn’t quite worked out and whilst we’re at it, get Rasmug Smug-kerson to get his shitty top knot and tracksuit ‘I am one of the players’ look to trot on back to Mjitlland and have a rethink on recruitment. And if we’re all realistic enough too, has the money dried up and we’re now on our last legs as far as transfer pots are concerned too with Benham being completely anonymous these days so Jan is only going to be potential sells and nothing much in so a very very long Jan-May 2017 coming up and potentially over £100 million spent to be back playing in the 3rd tier.
Please act now as Smith is clearly not up to it and showing no signs of ever being up to it.
And I totally agree that our B team plays a style of football that if we adopted it for the firsts, would see us at least compete…..and we are allowed to tackle or make life awkward for the opposition too you know. Has Dean Smith ever team that? Or is he still doing the minutes silence from yesterday?
Agree with most but can’t agree with the fact that you have stated that has he had the support in the transfer market yet went on to say the the players he has don’t become bad player’s overnight which leads me to believe smith hasn’t got the ability at this level to work out what is needed to become consistent.
Smith pretty much has stuck with serial offenders and by and large where the problem lies .
If something isn’t working change it which you pointed to woods and nico .
Woods is class and nico is very average but is played week in week out .
For instance macecran playing the no 10 roll works as at qpr he was the inspiration and play maker and we looked to have the blend .
However he played the following Saturday and had a good half was taken off shockingly nico who was awful was left on.
And macecran other than being brought on as sub has noto featured and when in that game smith said he played well but guess what he went state back to the same old again.
This is just an example of why I think smith is playing his part in our current loss of form .
But I do believe the ffp regulations are also limiting our options in the market .
I fear in January if a large offer from a prem team comes in for hogan the club will not be in a position to refuse I also fear that woods will also be an attractive signing for a team chasing the playoffs.
We really are just fighting for survival in the championship this season.
Which is so important we don’t slip back .
Don’t panic!!!! While things are far from ok, we have performed brilliantly at times, away Brighton and Villa, home to Reading and PNE, but we are inconsistent. I’m no expert and don’t claim to have the solutions, to me we lack the depth in the squad to give Dean Smith genuine options. Accepting that we have had more injuries than usual, and not all players at peak form, Dean Smith is trying to adapt team selection and tactics to the opposition. But for good fortune, we could, and should have beaten Birmingham last week, they did the back four plus two deep holding midfielders, as they did at home last season, their negative football is now home and away, but gets results, after the game I spoke to some away fans who looked like they had lost a fiver and found a pound.
Would Jota make a difference? He could and we should try and bring him back, but remember he played well in a team doing well, it may be more difficult for him in an inconsistent team and struggling for confidence and results. Should we sack Smith?… Hell no, he’s our manager but hasn’t really been playing with all the best players available, let’s if we strengthen in January, especially if Alan Judge’s return is delayed,
….there’s no need to panic, but we do need a couple of wins, let’s start at home this Saturday and pick up points at Brizzle City on the following Tuesday.
COYB
HerzyBee
I’m of the opinion that some of our players just ain’t good enough – certainly to challenge at the top end of this division. The example I give (and I’m not picking on him in particular) is that Yennaris couldn’t get anywhere near the team of two years ago and now he’s a regular. Having said all that – we’re still punching massively above our weight just being in the Championship – our problem is that the team of 2014/15 and a 5th place finish has massively raised expectations.
Woodybee
It’s a bit of both I think. On the recruitment front, we tried hard but, not least due to our financial constraints, were unable to get an experienced defensive midfielder (the biggest gap at present) and additional striker over the line. Kaikai has so far disappointed, but that can sometimes happen. And comparisons with two years ago are not really vaild in my view: circumstances with loans have changed since then and we were just very blessed getting Jota, Pritchard, Gray, and Moses in one window.
So, no, I don’t think DS has the tools Warburton had, but I don’t think either that this should direct everyone’s negative attention towards the DOFs. Given the weaker hand DS has been dealt, I think he deserves more time, and I agree there have been signs that he can make good use of the tools he has, whatever their inadequacies. However, he really needs to settle soon on the system best suited to the talent he has and entrench this on the training ground. My preference would be the 3/5/1/1 we saw last week: it worked well notwithstanding the loss and, for the life of me, I cannot understand why it was dispensed with yesterday. So, in short, DS still has quite a bit to prove in my view but calls for his dismissal are very premature, and I would be surprised if Matthew Benham see things very differently
The current players and the manager, are not up to the task.
A shattering defeat yesterday and hardly any panic in the ranks, laughable!
MB is to blame, REPEAT, to blame, for the present crisis; it was always coming.
MB forced Warburton, our best manager since the War, intelligent, adaptable, loyal, commendable, to leave BFC. All the painful mess, that is unfolding now, need never had happened, had MB not wished to be so oppressive towards MW, our best manager in an eon, which gave him no option but to move on and prove himself as a big success and a terrific manager, at Rangers.
You can’t change the facts, or the truth, but no, you will carry on deluding yourselves!
If BFCavoid relegation, this season, it will be only a postponement of the inevitable, given the current set up
Another season,Same old rhetoric, just say it Roderic ,”BENHAM OUT”.What the hell will that solve getting rid of the man who has funded everything that has happened [with his evil money] in getting us to the championship.Including employing your beloved Warbs,and players past and present . Without his input the Bees would NOW be playing league two football at best.Thats a fact, like him or not.
Just stop your childish points scoring; for a start, refer to me as, “Boru”, that is my ndp, just as yours is”Hobo”, the difference being , that whatever you choose, they are part of my real name, unlike yours, NB.
The squad is unbalanced and short of quality. Four centre backs, about three who can play right back, but no fit left back. No attacking midfielders worth a game, and nobody other than Hogan capable of scoring.As for Smith, I agree with Steve above-no charisma or spark, no connection with the fans at all. Poor team selections,chops and changes too much and doesn’t seem to know his best team. Unless we make some some positive changes very soon league one beckons.
Here we are talking again about Warburton.
I was very sad to see him go, but that was 18 months ago and we all need to move on; if not, it will hang over us like Martin Allen did for several years after he left, which benefited nobody in the slightest.
Please can we concentrate on the present, as worrying as it is, rather than the past – it achieves nothing.
Regards
Gordon
Move on, ok, to what exactly?
How?
With what?
The plan, please?
Regards, Boru
You can say that for every team in the league, the manager has only the players he has available! A good manager plays to the strength of the players that is available. Is it not the manager who tells the players where to play and the system that he wants them to play? I agree players do not go bad over night so you tell me where it is going wrong! Who brought the players in at the beginning of the season, was it the chairman or the manager? Sawyers, Henry and co. If Burton win on Saturday where do they go from there?
Blah, blah, blah. Typical overreaction overreaction to a bad run in football. Keep looking backwards, it was always better then, instead of looking at today and the future.
The fact is Brentford have the youngest squad in the Championship – young bodies and young heads that need to become battle hardened. Smiths urgent job right now is to maintain self confidence and get some steel into the minds and bodies of the players.
It’s a tough league and things are tough at the moment, but it turns around in a flash in football – just ask Norwich.
Brentford need support – not 1,000 different and ill conceived ideas of how to get back to the winning ways.
The bees will challenge for a play off spot this season – no doubt about it.
Agreed… not sure about the last bit though
Oh….come on Jim. A supporter must be a believer until points prove otherwise.
We have a great goalkeeper.
But we lack one proper full / wing back.
We have a player in Woods that plays in the Iniesta mould.
But we lack a box to box midfield enforcer. And McCleod is now injured as is Macca.
We have a great striker in Hogan who is a pure finisher.
But we lack any creativity and guile out wide to give him the chances.
We used to have Pritchard, Dallas, Jota, Canos, dare I say it, Bidwell.
And we have signed KK, Josh, Hoffman, Vibe, Barbet, Bjelland.
Of Dean Smith’s ‘inherited’ signings, only Colin looks the part – so far.
And Clarke / Sawyers are good young players who are still developing.
Dean Smith needs time. Only two months ago we were decrying Villa for trying to poach him…!
Jim is right – DS needs the tools, and our transfers have left us weaker.
So to return to my earlier comment that Saturday’s team was essentially the one that comfortably beat Reading minus Alan McC and anticipating a reaction that it can’t simply be Alan who can change a team so dramatically, the consensus appears to be exactly that. A hard battling midfielder like Alan or previously Dougie does change the make up considerably. There is DS’s shopping list priority in Jan if Scotty stays.
The time to talk about sacking the manager is after we see how the team reacts to Saturday’s debacle. Look at the run Preston went on after we put 5 past them.
We are a good team having a bad run. These things happen. I am sure we will strengthen in January, but remember how far we have come in so little time.
I have been a supporter since 1954, so these are the best times ever. As far as blaming MB, what nonsense! Just look at Orient. Thanks for the balanced post Jim.
Totally agree Jonathan, well said.
I agree, and have been a fan since the 60s, but Try convincing fans like Boru Jonathan.
Firstly talk of Warburtons era is pointless.Its gone and it was his choice.
Dean Smith does not have the same calibre of player to work with & that’s an issue for the DOF’s in my view.
Dean Smith seems like a decent man BUT that doesn’t guarantee him success in what is a dog eat dog and environment .
I don’t see MB getting rid just yet however unless things improve it will ultimately happen.
In the meantime we ALL need to back him and his team.To do otherwise is unthinkable .
I left it a day or so to take in everything that’s been said from both sides. It’s fair to say a bit like our Country at the moment divisions run deep in our fan Base. Smith OUT and Smith IN (or give more time) its a shame because if we aren’the as fans I don’t see the team be as one either at a time when morale is vital. Honestly Smith frustrates me sometimes and I have always felt a little uneasy about his appointment. But I understood why the fit was right and how MB could see it working. So i need to be convinced. Having said that I do support what Jim says. The team is very much work in progress and that should have been clear to all of us-this was never a side going to rip up the division. As has been mentioned it’s a young team with very little championship experience and I think it’s wrong to expect them to be able to adapt and change to fill the gaps the squad has at the moment. The real key to me is a lack of special quality that is the ‘go to’ player. Last year this was Judgey, when he didn’t play well neither did we. In the heyday of the Warbs era we were very fortunate in having several players blessed with outstanding quality. Last year it was a Judge and Canos. Once Judgey got injured Canos was there and we had the huge impact of Scotty coming back. This season the lack of a Judge or Canon means the capable players have been expected to fill holes that are beyond them. Bently Egan Sawyers none are bad signings and will all go on to shine as will Woods and many others. The issue to me is we have too many ‘steady’ Eddie’s in the midfield and that bunch have played week in week out with no break and have become risk adverse. Go back to the Fulham game. They closed us down and stopped Woods playing for FFC they had the wise (and tall and strong) McDonald who ran their midfield while those around him harried and chased. Now think back to QPR where Woods was given time and space to pull the strings which allowed us to play with style. While Woods has no protector alongside him what creative element we have is constrained. Up front the ammo for Scotty has to come from a ball player to me that’s Josh Mc but he and Woods are brutally exposed without some muscle around them and it’s not coming from Nico. Sayers will come good in time but is in a sink or swim situation at the moment having been thrown in to the Championship with the fans having a big up on him when he signed and now taking time to find his level. The lack of this ‘guvnor’ like a Sidwell or a Leadbiter means too much pressure on young heads and on a defence that can only keep it up for so long before pressure tells. To me it is failings in the market that means Smith is stiffed with working with talented players that ultimately areally now getting found out in areas of the pitch they are being forced to play in. They are not bad players but out of position and playing a Warbs setup means they’ll get found out no matter how hard you work in training if you are a round peg in a square hole. The lack of pace and another hustling young striker is what we all have cried out for but failed to get. But with this group of players would another manager do any better without changing the style of play and with it the player make up? I doubt it and if we did change then who comes in because there isn’t a lot out there and you need one who buys into the path MB wants to the take the club. A proven championship manager on big bucks is not going to buy into how we work. Getting rid of Smith now in my mind could be out of the pan and into the fire. What does frustrate me is with options limited within the squad then decide on a style and stick to it. To keep asking the players to adapt each week brings instability in my mind. It’s also clear he sets the team up to deal with the opposition – just as Uwe did and that didn’t work! Chose how you want to play, stick to it and let the opposition worry about us instead of trying to nullify them. We are dealt with the hand we have, till January, but don’t see much happening then to be honest. Then we need to judge but as Jim says get rid of Smith now is just making him a scapegoat. He is perfect? Nope! but he is what we’ve got just like the squad he has better we try to change that first imho
The telling thing about the season so far is that we fans could see the issues with the balance or lack thereof with the squad before a ball was kicked so why didn’t those who are supposed to be doing their jobs and who take our money ???
Would any of us really blame Hogan if he went in January, as a striker who has proved he can score goals in the championship would you want to play in this current BFC team, no me neither, he’ll go and we will all know who to blame !!!
Hear such as Cliff Crown(maybe Clown would be better)still talking of a top six finish when this club in it’s third season at this level needs to start acting and performing like it belongs there, all that money from selling Moses, Andre,Tarks,Dave,and Dallas, yet wouldn’t pay £2.50m for Sergi Canos.
Money wasted on Machearan and Bjelland, pay £1.50m on a left back nobody has heard of and who has a major long term injury and sign a known luxury slacker in Sawyers.
We’ve no wide players, no enterprise or threat in midfield and has any one even considered what would happen if Bentley were to get injured, OMG Bonham, but have we signed anybody as proper cover ???
Getting to the Championship was a wonderful achievement and like many of my generation at GP that day when PNE were beaten I cried tears of joy, I don’t want Premiershite football (you can all have a go at me now )but I’ve way too many years of league 1 and 2 to ever go back to that either but I genuinely see it around the corner !!!
Think it was the add ons,up to 4.5 mil, with wages to match, that did us with Canos Fris. As for The wasted money? we all know who’s pocket that came out of originally, and still does.Just be thankful we have someone now willing to give, rather than take out of our club,taking has happened all to often over the years.
Dear Mr Boru
Do you know, I probably agree about Warburton more than you think. But left he did (under not the greatest of circumstances); bear in mind too he might have gone in any case if a rich club had come in for him.
The thing is, I just don’t see what it achieves by referring back to him every so often.
As for the plan and moving forward, you’ll have to ask DS and the DOFs that one, as it’s not my job. But hopefully strengthening the squad in January might come into it, otherwise we could be in for a fight against relegation.
Stepping back a touch and appreciating the financIal constraints we work under with our crowds and stadium might also be a good idea at some point. We are punching above our weight as a club, and this will continue until the new stadium is built.
Regards
Gordon
I believe he was expressing an interest in the Norwich job at the time Gordon?
Dear Mr Hobbo
That is also a rumour I’ve heard.
I’m a bit unclear when this happened, though. If it was after the disagreement with MB, fair enough to be honest; if before, it makes for an interesting discussion.
Regards
Gordon