If another home defeat, Brentford’s third of the new season, wasn’t hard enough for some fans to take, any remnants of ‘bigger picture’ positivity evaporated as soon as Lee Carsley’s post-match press conference became public last night.
I wasn’t at the conference, but from conversations with those that were, it would appear that the damage of his frank ‘don’t really want the job’ admission is already clear – the Press are having a field day with this.
Yes Carsley spoke about the match too, and I’m sure he was just answering the questions put to him, but how, and why, he didn’t simply say ‘the chance to manager Brentford was unexpected but exciting’, or stick to a ‘huge honour’ script, then leave it at that, is baffling.
Instead of steadying the ship, the way his words have been reported, have served to pour petrol on to flames. For me, this is worrying. Really worrying. How can we have a Brentford manager who doesn’t really want the job? And after the start to the season we’ve had, why wasn’t he briefed?
We can’t have our club dragged through the mud like this, it’s embarrassing to read that a reluctant coach has seemingly had his arm twisted to take on a job he doesn’t want? Don’t do it if you don’t want it, is managing our club really a punishment?
We are a laughing stock this morning and that truly hurts me.
Dave Lane
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Surely we should be more annoyed that we’ve appointed someone who doesn’t want the job than that person being honest?
It is the hand of the gambler; he bought into the club, has dug his, football-wise (yes, I am well aware of his gambler gotten gains, etc and the money, everyone seems to be blinded by this, to what damage he is doing on the pitch), incompetent mitts on the central tiller of the playing side and the chaos that is now ensuing, was a situation I predicted months ago on these sites. The gambler is so caught up in his hermetic world of numbers, that he is determined to have his own way re-this unwise new style he has imposed on BFC, as the price for his money.
I find the smug and arrogant words of his cronies in this set up, alarming and distasteful. I am very angry, after supporting the team from the 70’s, that the greatest opportunity we ever had to break back into the big time, was sabotaged and undermined by the gambler, last season, I fear that marvellous window of good times and hope are rapidly fading into the memory of what might have been.
Couldn’t agree more. How many meddling owners have we seen disregard the fans and make crazy decisions to boost their own massive egos. Bluebirds playing in red,city becoming tigers,and many more. The outgoing manager was doing ok considering he had lost 4 quality players and had them replaced by the cheap foreign imports,none of whom are fit,strong,or good enough to play at this level.
Top flight sides are going to be reluctant to loan us their quality young players if they are likely to return on crutches, our injury list is more than just coincidence.
The panic appointment of a youth coach with no managerial experience at this level,and who doesn’t want the job sends out all the wrong signals. We desperately needed an old head to steady the ship before it sinks.
I want my Brentford back.
Dizzey get real mate, the ship had already sunk pre Benham, give him his ninty odd million back, stay at Griffin park and watch us fester.Never mind there is Always another Ron Noades or David Webb out there on the take.
Rodric its only because of the gambler that we are in the the championship today and not playing conference football at best, after the financial mess we were in,like him or not that’s a fact.
One PR disaster after another this year at Griffin Park. Shambolic doesn’t really do the current situation justice. Disorganized, disordered, chaotic, confused, muddled, inefficient, inept, unprofessional – the list of adjectives is endless. Fred Karno is alive and kicking.
Look lets keep a sense of perspective here!
I don’t think it’s any good for us to chastise our owner, who after all’s said and done, has bankrolled our club in a very generous way.
He is not responsible for the catastophic injury list we have had, nor the poor pitch fiasco.
The problems we have at the moment are a lack of professionalism in the very ‘key’ areas of public relations and crisis management.
We are not doing well as a footballing team, in fact I walked out of the Birmingham game 10 minutes before the end, as the team seem to be devoid of any creative ideas.
Did the stats for example, show how much ‘negative possession’ we retained around our penalty area and the halfway line? And if so what did that prove?
So here is the question! Are the team now afraid to express themselves? Are they fearful of making a mistake, and in doing so are they worried that the ‘stats’ will work against them.
Who in the team, be it management or playing staff, would feel brave enough to buck the trend and say we need to take more ‘chances or risks’ with our superior possession count. Does the system allow that?
By doing nothing a climate of non risk, or more importantly fear could prevail !
How many of us when we go to work would feel comfortable with somebody watching over our shoulder all the time? Not many I bet!
I think one of the most damaging statements made, was that the ‘stats’ dept could be helpful during game time- I don’t think so!
It’s time we stood by the team selected on the day and the coach must manage that team for 90 mins to the best of his ability.
It we need to tweak with the data, let it be after a sequence of games either by the number of games or by the calendar month. We may then see the true potential of the system in place.
Finally, who do we- the genuine supporters relate to.
We need a figure head who we can praise or condemn, cheer or berate, laugh or cry with.
It was interesting to note, that at the recent supporters forum, Marinus took a backward seat while most of the questions were directed to other members of the panel.
I think the ‘food chain’ needs tweaking and a clear PR statement is now needed.
Systems can be great but human emotion is very important too!
Excellent points you make. I think it’s important we know why the owner felt it was time to part company with the manager after so little time in the job with that crippling (no attempt at humour!) Injury list, the sale of some of our prized assets, and that atrocious pitch. Why the sudden need to employ a British based coach, especially one who actually doesn’t want the job and who will probably move on at the end of the season, meaning we’ll need to change the coaching staff again for next season. And as you correctly point out, why some of the PR staff are still employed by the club!!
I think all the Benham worshippers, should get a shoe shine kit and report to Maison Benham, kneel before their idol and buff his boots.