Beesotted contributor, Daniel Vine, suggests that we don’t currently have the right wide-men in the squad to be playing one man up front effectively, so should Dean Smith be considering playing two up top? Or should we be sticking to our principles?
It’s been a couple of years since my last contribution to Beesotted, but after the result against RovRum I felt that I needed to get something off my chest that I just couldn’t fit into 140 characters on Twitter.
As I write this, we currently sit in sixth position after four games, which is impressive, but also frustrating, because we’ve controlled every game for large parts and could be top. But my concern is our formation.
While 4-2-3-1 has served us well over the last few years, we’ve had the players capable of playing in the wide areas – Jota, Pritchard, Dallas, Canos, Odubajo etc. We haven’t got those players now, so it feels like we’re trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. We’re playing the likes of Josh Clarke and Sam Saunders purely because they can play on the wing, or playing Sawyers or Macleod out of position and they are therefore less effectual.
They are both central players, players that can open a defence when played in the position where they feel most comfortable. Ok, this is nothing new – I’ll take you back to the days when we played Marcus Bent on one wing and Nicky Forster on the other before they were sold to a higher level and subsequently shone for their new clubs in their favoured central role.
As it stands, we have four unbelievably talented centre backs in Bjelland, Barbet, Dean and Egan that are fighting for two positions and we have Woods, Macleod, Sawyers, McEachran, Yennaris, Kerschbaumer, McCormack and Judge (coming back soon hopefully), all fighting for the three central positions of two defensive midfielders and one number ten. We don’t have any wingers on our books (although we loaned out Gogia) yet we still insist on playing this formation.
Ted Knutson recently released a graphic showing a comparison between Andre Gray and Lasse Vibe and they were almost identical, so why are we playing someone with the same stats as a centre forward that helped us into the playoffs on the wing? Alongside Scotty Hogan, Vibe could be absolutely unreal and they are capable of getting 50 goals between them.
If you look back over the last few years, the most successful Championship teams have had two strikers – Watford had Deeney and Ighalo, Burnley had Gray and Vokes etc.
If we can bring in two wingers with the quality of Jota or Canos or Pritchard then by all means, 4-2-3-1 would suit us well, but at the moment we haven’t got anyone that is capable of playing on the wing to the standard we need.
In my opinion, we need to switch to a 5-3-2 formation – Wales proved at the Euro’s that you don’t need wingers to be successful, Bale played at number 10 and very rarely moved out to the wing. We could learn a lot from how they lined up. Three strong central defenders, two wing-backs, a defensive midfielder, a playmaker, a number ten and two strikers.
The width is given from Colin (who is brilliant going forward) and Elder, who by all accounts is a very promising player. You’ve got three strong central defenders whoever you choose from our four, Woods is your defensive midfielder, Macleod is your playmaker, Sawyers is your number tenand you’ve got Hogan and Vibe upfront. Call me crazy but I think that team could win the league, especially when you add Nico or Judgey to the over all equation.
I’ve mentioned this on Twitter before, and while many agree with me, some have said that it’s not Dean Smith’s preferred style of play, but if I haven’t got the tools to do it that way at this precise moment, then you have to find another way.
Overall I’m more than happy with how things are being run, we’re in a much more stable position than we were this time last year and we’ll improve on last year’s finish.
I never even thought Brentford and the Premiership would even be mentioned in the same sentence when I first started supporting the club, I don’t pretend to be a genius on the subject, and maybe I’ve set my expectations too high, but if a simpleton like myself is asking these questions, why isn’t someone at the club asking the same thing?
Up the Bees,
Daniel Vine
@vineybee
Terrific post & very well thought through. I absolutely agree with Daniel. In fact I would play vibe as no 10 & bring Wide player in. Gives us different options in terms of style of play. In my view we also need another forward to protect us against injury to Hogan / Vibe. Hoffman just doesn’t suit our style of play & needs to go on loan to prove himself. Come on DOF’s you know this makes sense get two guys in & Deano, let’s go two up front for Fowls on sat.
COYR
Dave McLaughlin
I’m not sure Vibe could play alongside Hogan. However put 2 up front and the enigma that is the Hoff could be interesting. It seems the squad is bottom heavy but the tactics don’t reflect this.
The only thing I would say is in pre-season anything but 4 at the back caused confusion and poor performances up front and also conceding.
It all seems very simple to change a system,but anyone who has attempted to do a fantasy football team makes it clear leave it too the experts
On the nail .dean is doing his best to make things work but with out somebody to make the bullets they can’t be fired the people who are meant to requite our players are not in the same class as frank mcparland if they can’t do the job they should go
I see Alan judge is now being touted for sale to Newcastle. Knowing how short the Bees are of a wide man and not being willing to invest any money in players why are they selling the only decent left sided wide man and provider we have? I have watched this crap around Brentford for the past 60 years and quite honestly I’ve had enough of all our best players being sold at every opportunity. No doubt Hogan and Macloud have also been earmarked for sale as soon as possible. Goodbye Bees I’m sorry to go, but I’ve had enough.
Here we go again, only four league games in and the doom and gloomers are at it again.As i recall we seem to have competed very well since AJs injury. As for the Bees selling there best players over the last 60 years fact is we now have a lot more of them thanks to Mr Benham, and no longer being sold for peanuts.
Well, I have followed Brentford for longer than you and am very excited both for the present and the future. Best you go down the road to the Loftus Road mob because then you will be happier and we real supporters can get behind Brentford and enjoy the good times.
You do realise he has a broken leg and will leave on a free at the end of the season…
Seriously Rat catcher there is no way you should be giving up on BFC over this, or at this moment in time. I get the emotions that you feel when a big player leaves, we all do, but this is the time to support the owner and the staff and to try to enjoy watching BFC fight it out in the championship.
Last season I had criticisms of the club, some valid maybe some mot in hindsight, and maybe at the end of the window i’ll voice more concerns. But honestly there is nothing that BFC can do to stop AJ leaving, he doesn’t want to play for us anymore, it has been the same way with most of the stars that have left us. All clubs bar the super rich elite few are selling clubs – nobody at Brentford can change this.
All we can do is to make the best of the situation, and these days we are pretty good at achieving this. In the past we rarely had prized assets and any talent we did unearth was sold off cheaply, not now.
Support your club – as Churchill said “never ever give up”!
good bye Ratcatcher ! have fun supporting Alan Judge FC or [ insert other player name here ] FC
Why are they selling him? Do you, a fan of 60 years, honestly not know why? Alan Judge will walk away on a free transfer in 10 months time when his contract ends in June 2017. That means we’ll get precisely ZERO for him. At a best estimate, he’ll be back playing somewhere around November/December time. That means we may get what, 6 months more playing time out of him before his contract ends.
Surely, receiving some transfer fee for him now, is better than keeping him for 6 months and getting nothing?