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Brilliant Billy hope that Dean and Matthew read this one.
I have a feeling that we may be digging into the B team sooner rather than later this season.
Excellent summary Billy. As you state a number of factors could potentially leave us ‘off the pace’
I suspect there have been a number of niggling injuries among a large number of players.
To see some loans completed, you naturally question “why not us?”
And while the ‘transfers from Europe’ exercise was a step to far last year, I would have though one or two from Europe this summer to settle in and develop would have been done. Hopefully not a case of the ‘baby out with the bathwater’.
I have sympathy with the DofF’s. They I suspect must feel frustrated at not getting more ‘over the line’.
I am sure MB must be seeing this too and more and will do the best for the club. In MB we trust!
I have no problem with the way we scout players – I think any way we can identify the appropriate player the better. I am just nervous about the competition having caught up with us to a certain extent and are competing with us heavily.
Saying that we did pull in Sawyers, Egan and Bentley – three highly respected players – in the summer so we done well to get these guys over the line.
I agree with you with regards Europe. And I don’t think they have abandoned the idea of signing a player from anywhere if he is good enough. If we need to bring in a flair player, maybe looking back at Europe is the answer – especially if we are facing too much competition from UK-based players. Maybe Germany as opposed to Portugal or Denmark as the type of football they play and their culture is closer to English – so in principal the transition should be easier.
With regard the B-Team I hope you are right. Maybe, with the increased cost and competitor for players, the need to have a more focussed route of progress into the A-team was required.
It would be great if we could fast-track some of these players into the first team squad. If so, many of these arguments will disappear pronto. Personally, I would much rather we were developing our own Sergi Canos or Kasey Palmer.
Completely agree with all of this. It was blindingly obvious yesterday that we desperately need someone with real pace who can go past people on the wing. Given that we are struggling to sign someone, why on EARTH are we practically kicking Gogia out of the door without giving him the opportunity? Same thing happened at the start of last season when it became obvious Andre would go, but we sold Grigg anyway. We then spent most of last season saying we needed another striker. I don’t get it.
Don’t start me on Will Grigg Ali. If you listen to the podcast regularly, you’ll know that I’m actually Will Grigg’s agent. And I still believe that he would have been a better option off the bench than what we have at the moment. Can you imagine bringing a 10 plus goal striker off the bench – that’s when you’re really talking top 6
Very interesting article Billy – I don’t normally respond to such articles but having been a Brentford supporter since my father introduced me around the late 1950s and certainly a season ticket holder until illness stopped me going to matches last year, I feel I should write a couple of things I need guidance on. It hinges around the job description of two of Brentford’s operatives Phil Giles and Rasmus Ankersen Firstly Rasmus Ankersen, a “job share” with Midjyland is not ideal. How much of his focus is on The Bees, I wonder ? His body language at the recent Fans Forum was not good in my view. Laconic, disinterested,I’m not sure which but I was unimpressed. As for Phil Giles, on a recent podcast somebody said he was growing into the job. Well he may well give straight answers but I remain unsure of his credentials to do this job. His qualifications to hold this vital position are sketchy indeed. A Toon Army member & employee of Matthew Benham is as much as most people know. A Football man, er.. well I’ll come back to you on that one. The bottom line is we are grossly under prepared for a new Championship season. No wideman, only 1 reliable forward, (I’m discounting Hoffman btw & an ever growing list of injuries.) Not great & while we pontificate, decent quality wingmen are being snapped up from under our noses. The DOF’s have known what is required for some time & have palpably failed to address the problem. It’s just not good enough on their part!
Thanks for your reply Derek and I hear what you are saying Derek. I think the whole ‘football person’ thing is a mismomer. I really do believe in ‘best man for the job’ and too many times, companies become entrenches in what has been done before .. and never diversify. I bet there are one or two excellent people working in advertising … or banking .. or doctors … who would make excellent Directors Of Football … and thousands and thousands who would be rubbish .. in the same way that there are hundreds of people working as head coaches and directors of football and other roles who are quite frankly rubbish … but are there before it is deemed if you have a football background you know what you are doing ….
Rasmus – and I wrote this elsewhere – I actually believe confuses the Director of Football role and the club would be better to look at these roles and separate them or rename Rasmus. Yes he deals with stuff but his involvement in player recruitment – from what I can gather – is nowhere near as involved as Phil Gilles. He is part of the jigsaw along the line yes … but from what I can gather Andy Scott has much more involvement .. as do the scouts and analysts. Doesn’t stop Rasmus from suggesting players (you or I could suggest players) or his view to be asked on a player. But the reality is … Phil Gilles controls the player recruitment side.
Also .. and I wrote this in a recent article on our recruitment system … the person at the top has to be a people person. Organised – dealing with a lot of administration .. speak to a lot of agents .. and oversee the whole recruitment process. It’s not nearly as glamorous role as people think. When we asked Mark Warburton if he would go back to DoF he said ‘No way. Thats not for me. I don’t want to spend my time speaking to agents and doing paperwork’ …
A lot of the players who come through the scouting system Phil doesn’t even see. There may be say 100 players who start at the bottom of the system .. being scouted and analysed and who go through the mill .. the best say 6 would come to Phil … who would then, with his team of people (including Dean Smith) decide on whether to make a move or not …
What Im saying is our system works only if our whole scouting system is solid from top to bottom. Mainly from the bottom. Because if we are missing these players at the bottom of the system, they will never get to the top.
Once these players get to the top and the club like them, it is up to Phil and co to do the deal.
And this is where I throw the question in. Are we able to close these deals??
To be honest, I’m less worried about us finding the players. I’m sure all the three players who were in this article (not including Swift) were on our radar. It’s whether we are able to deliver the deal. I’m not sure if financially we are able to compete. There is nothing we can do about that. But if we put our hands up and say “we can’t compete financially” then we will have to once again take a different approach.
Maybe we have to go a league lower than we are looking at the moment. Maybe we will have to balance up between looking abroad and at home. Maybe we may have to do some creative deal-making to get loans in. Maybe we would have to look at creating a relationship with one to two or three teams where, in exchange for finance and expertise, we get first dibs on their players.
I’m not sure as I’m not in the thick of of it here. But I do know something about creative deal-making as a small independent. And for me, if this is an issue, this is maybe where we should be going.
It’s too easy to blame personnel in my books. To be a bigger problem is more the limitations we have to do exactly what we want. It was easier in Division 1 as we were off-radar there.
In The Championship, if you are doing anything right, all eyes are on you.
Thanks for your response Billy and you make some valid points but the bottom line is the DOF’s are not securing players according to the needs of the Coach.No amount of rhetoric can disguise the fact we have not replaced Messrs Jota, Dallas or Canos & 2 of the 3 have been gone for over 6 months.Anyway keep up the good work you are doing for our beloved Brentford FC
I’m not so sure things are much different from the start of last season, as we are burdened with lots of injuries and the team sounds as if it is a bit undercooked.
For whatever reason we seem to be finding it much more difficult to recruit players these days. If this is down purely to money, fair enough and I accept it. If not, then questions have to be asked of the DOFs. I personally would like to see a ‘football man’ in one of these roles – football as an industry is inherently suspicious of ‘outsiders’ and in our situation it is imperative that we have someone with wide connections throughout English football, something the previous two incumbents definitely had.
Finally, as you say Billy, making predictions of top six finishes is not that clever really, especially as the team is clearly lacking in some areas with the season already started.
Early days I know but the way this division has started it seems likely to be the most competitive since our arrival. I can’t help thinking our 9th placed team would now struggle, so we’d need to improve fast simply to stand still. When I saw Josh McEachran KK & Clarke, plus the new players stepping up a level on debuts in the starting 11 on Sat it did hit home. I think many of us glossed over the departure of Bidwell and Button, seeing their replacements as more than adequate. Maybe in time, but not from day 1. And what is it with all these injuries?
I think I do understand the plan better now, but the key element is its implementation, both in terms of scouting & closing deals, and then getting the most out of the team on the day. Work to do on both fronts at the moment, plus we have to find ways to move on the misfits from last summer’s business (Gogia, Hoffman, and possibly even KK and McEachran).
What is vital is that we all pull behind the club and support the team – this season could go one of 2 ways, but we’d mostly all be satisfied to retain our place in the championship come next May. If we do our job and get down to GP in big numbers and roar on every point it will be OK. Hostile GP where we do our bit and others will have to step up and do theirs.
What I would like to know is why given the considerable sum that we have received from player sales during last season,were we unable to come up with the £2.5Million that Liverpool wanted for Sergi Canos.
If we can’t afford that sort of sum for a player that we know is tried and tested both at BFC and in the Championship , then YES we are in serious trouble.
Oh and at £750,000 Mceachran has to be the biggest waste of money in the club’s history “!!!
Thing is folks don’t forget it’s Behams money funding the bees ,before he came along we didn’t have any ,just debts.
£2.5M is a hell of a lot for us but I dare say MB may be willing to go for it in certain conditions. The issue will be the wages & compliance with FFP & Canos much as I loved him isn’t in our reach.
I’ve no issue with MB steering clear of these mad fees / wages. The DoF’s & DS gave to use their knowledge & contacts to find players that fit our model.
If Gray goes for £30M our sell on would be a game changer.