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Brentford had just come off the back of a loss to Stoke and a disappointing draw against Norwich. They’re ahead of where they were last season. Just. But their season hasn’t really kicked off.

Meanwhile a Luton town – revived by a returning Nathan Jones – are the Bees’ next hosts having had an OK start to the season

The Beesotted crew of Billy The Bee Grant, Greville The Waterman and Gary GP Paul looked back on the Stoke and Norwich matches and asked what went wrong

Will Allsop the Spreadsheet Winker gave his Spreadsheet Winker stats analysis of the aforementioned games

Jonathan JB Burchill gave the lowdown on Brentford lowest highest goalscorer of the season – already beaten by Ivan Toney’s sight goals

Plus we talk to Luton Fan Lewis Williams about the forthcoming Luton match

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