According To Our Data – “You’re Not Very Good, And You Know You Aren’t”
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Loved this article. Excellent perspective on our approach. Personally I hope it’s a case of people like Jenas long continuing to sneer. Let the outsiders not ‘get it’.
Ian Holloway has changed his tune from less than a year ago and now says he wants his joke of a club to “become more like Brentford”.
Is Tony Coffee still “worried for us”? Let’s hope so. Can’t wait to see the Bees take three points from The UK Tax-Payers’ Olympic Stadium. Trust me, the only way this won’t happen in the near future is if we pass each other in terms of leagues.
It’s easy to say In Benham We Trust. He might not get everything right but I’m am completely happy, make that overjoyed, that a fan who has “put in £90million” is the key decision maker at our club.
Once again, superb article Alex.
Come On You Bees
Thanks, glad you liked it! I personally don’t mind when pundits knock Brentford’s approach as it reminds me that lots of “football people” in big clubs feel the same way. The famous, old clubs, might have bigger resources but I’m sure we make better decisions.
Well written and thought through article, summarises exactly where we are.
Innovation in football is vital and keeps us ahead of the pack. Wenger, when he first arrived, was sneered at and Arsene who? headlines, he soon revolutionised football in this country with sports science and dietary changes, winning a series of trophies. Problem for him is, everyone has caught up and copied his methods, he also arrived with a database of young players (mostly French) who were ‘up and coming’, this has largely gone, hence the drying up of trophies for Arsenal.
Of course no system or method is perfect, but standing still isn’t an option. Let pundits sneer and disrespect, while they’re busy being ignorant, we have an advantage. How long for? Who knows, but Matthew Bentham gives us an edge, and will look to innovate and try new things, it’s not perfect, and there will be players who come and go, but standing still isn’t an option.
COYB’s
Condescending and arrogant article by Cole, falsely equating “traditional fans”, with being content to exist as a “tinpot Brentford”, an absolutely ludicrous statement.
Not one original thought, as everything said is a rehash of numerous articles, stating the same arguments; I don’t recall any recent debate on this subject, so the author must be trying to be “clever”, by reinventing one, or is just keen to get his name on the page.
Statistics, can be manipulated to prove anything, or nothing; previous performance, is no guarantee of future success. Benham makes it clear that traditional recruiting methods are just as important in the player recruitment process; statistics, which by the way, have always been used by “the traditionalists”, e.g. An obvious one, goals scored, goals conceded, are an indicator, they cannot be relied on as an absolute, or a panacea for success, ever.
“Yawn”,like you Brian not original, same old negative rhetoric.
Four years in the championship,not a bad stat that?(much to your disappointment I sense).
Thank you Mr Benham.
Oh dear – more drivel.
The obvious one measure of success you make a lame attempt to identify is points won in a season. I seem to recall that when MB began his very large investment in Brentford that points won were a very scarce commodity indeed.
The trend is unmistakable and is leading to the Premier league but you cannot understand that quite simply because you cannot understand the factual evidence in the article by Alex Cole, which is proof positive of the accuracy of his comments.
Blimey, that was an unnecessarily aggressive and intemperate response.
There has been a recent debate on the subject – listen to the recording of the 5Live conversation between Knutson and Jenas. I’m glad you agree that Matthew Benham uses traditional methods alongside analytics. The author never suggested that he didn’t. The point is to use the stats to make better decisions and identify talent that may not be picked up by traditional methods. And looking at the current Brentford team as it approaches its fourth season in the Championship, it’s hard to argue that it hasn’t been a remarkable success.
Oh and I’m sure the author wouldn’t mind you addressing him as ‘Alex’ rather than ‘Cole’.
There is no definitive in football… keep moving or you’ll be shot! I consider Brentford one of the most progressive thinking of all league clubs. We will never have a massive fan base and even a packed out every fortnight 20,000 stadium (please not an all-seater!) we will still be considered a small club. Nothing wrong in that. Holding our own and being self-sufficient has to be our ultimate goal.The rules must change so that tv/media power doesn’t dictate. (Also not at the mercy of rising rates!). Somebody must take issue with the FA about a fair and level playing field (game scheduling; clubs going out of business for the sake of a million quid other clubs getting millions in parachute payments for failure/relegation). Even match fixtures .. local derbies at the end of a season with good weather!? WHAT? Holiday day periods with (very likely)bad weather/bad travel facilities ….5:30 kick off on NYE for a team from Norfolk!!?? How shit are the FA? Did they not do geography at school? Do they not know bad weather affects travel and matches? But to make up for it lets make it all alright by having all last games played on a Sunday with a 12 o’clock kick-off. Sack the FA they know FA!
Yours sincerly
Holding my head high and with pride proud Brentford supporter.(Brentford: small to medium English football club with great, feet on the ground fans, purveyors of quality football!)
NB All things must change every great model will he copied then will become yesterdays news nothing stays the same forever.
I am a traditional fan, been going since 1961,and could not be more thrilled or grateful to M.B. for all that has happened in the last 6 or 7 seasons. Best football I have ever seen from Brentford and now a Club with a viable long-term future. Mediocrity and having no ambition or hope is now behind us, hopefully for ever.
No need to be so rude to someone who posts a well-argued article.
Never Changes does Boru,as obnoxious as ever.
Hysterical and aggressive reaction to my different viewpoint; a pity more equable and educated supporters, do not engage in these discussion zones, then there might be the chance and pleasure of honest debate, rather than the usual suspects, with their poison and vitriol.
The poison and vitriol came from you calling Alex’s article ‘condescending and arrogant’.
Just what is your beef with the statistical approach when it has given us our highest League position for 70 years and the best football any of us can remember?