Jim Levack has been writing about Brentford FC for over thirty years and has been one of the most respected commentators on the club’s ups and downs during that time… so when this article dropped into the Beesotted inbox, it really made us stop and think about some of the home truths in contains. Share your own thoughts in the comments section below the article as we will be talking about this on the Beesotted Pride of West London Podcast.
My grandad, a season ticket holder until he left us, always told me “if you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all”.
It was a mantra I’ve always tried to stick to as a journalist when writing about Brentford personnel, with the honourable exceptions of Dave Webb, Ron Noades and Paul Davis. All deserved scrutiny.
I also managed to upset our current Ambassador Marcus Gayle in one of his first outings for us when, if his memory serves him right, I referred to him as “lanky”. I’ve since apologised.
There’ve been times I wanted to let off steam but I always applied the rule of not putting on paper something I wouldn’t say to a player’s face.
Call me old fashioned but that’s just common decency. If a player is giving his all – and no one can ever accuse ANY of the current squad of not doing that – then that’ll do me.
Whether they’re good enough to consistently cut the mustard in the top flight is another matter and something for the club’s management to ponder. They don’t often get it wrong.
But it seems kindness and manners have disappeared from the vocabulary of some Bees fans, both new and those who really should know better. “I’ve paid for a season ticket, I can say what I like” seems to be the justification behind anonymous social media attacks.
And attacks they are. Personal, bile-filled, vitriolic, snide or just plain nasty. Dare to question them and like a playground pack their responses are ‘liked’ by mates who share their sometimes poorly thought out arguments.
With every tweet or facebook post they unashamedly expose their lack of knowledge of the game. Keyboard warriors with zero concept of the massive gap between watching on TV and playing FIFA and the realities of the physicality, fitness and emotional resilience needed to succeed in elite football.
But if it was just the new fans who’ve yet to see us not winning every week in their five years watching the club, you could understand it. Kind of.
More worryingly – and you’d think that after years of watching us at Blackpool and Crewe they’d know better – some of the most vocal critics are middle aged blokes. Their biogs proudly proclaim “Brentford fan since the 70s”, that longevity giving them the right to say what they like.
Fortunately they and the tourists popping up all over the shop are a noisy minority, but after sitting behind the dugouts on Saturday and listening to some of the off-colour comments aimed at Thomas, I salute his restraint.
There’s a lot at the club that could be better and is far more deserving of the vitriol. Yes, we’ve yet to replace Henrik and the dry, bumpy pitch isn’t the best.
What Christian Eriksen thought of the green rugby markings and bobbly surface who knows, but it’s something that needs to be sorted and pronto before it’s allowed to sabotage what I’m convinced will be a successful run in.
Both Thomas and Pontus remarked on it in the post-match pressers but there’s been little twitter comment about it. Why bother when you can slate easy target individuals instead?
Criticising those same players who’ve got us where we are is surely counter productive. If they weren’t trying or giving it everything, that’s a whole different matter and I’d agree with the moaners. But seeing many of them collapse onto their backs at full time on Saturday suggests otherwise.
It’s a free world and people can say what they like, but if someone turned up at my office and suggested “you’re not really trying are you?” I’d be pretty pissed off.
Fortunately, and I hope the players realise this, it’s a tiny minority but sadly they make the most noise and get listened to.
Off the field there are elements that still need improvement, but staff-wise I think we have one of the most progressive set ups in the country. We are punching massively above our weight… and learning all the time.
There’s so much to be proud of but recent defeats have crystalised the debate. Forget that they were against Liverpool, Man Utd, Wolves and Man City like Micah Richards did.
“Sometimes context and perspective has to be put on some results and I thought the criticism on some results was over the top.
“This is a well-run football club, well supported, we deserve that place in the Premier League and we’re fighting really hard to keep it.
“So, the noise, what I can only describe as mainly ignorance about the football club, we have to shut it out and concentrate on ourselves.”
Not my words. Those of Dean Smith at Norwich, whose form has improved dramatically since he addressed the negative element at the club.
This is a heartfelt plea. All of us, even those quick to vent online, want the same thing. To be a Premier League club next season.
If we are, we will have learned a lot from this season. If we’re not, then the end of a gruelling campaign will be the right time for a sensible and considered deep dive into where we could have done better.
One thing is certain though. We are weaker divided.
Jim Levack
Excellent message. I often think that when you go to the support of a player who is the current target of the boo boys that you are doing this and deemed to know less. I am often dissappointed by a players contribution but it does nt enhance my day or anyone else’s to slag them off. You clearly refer in part to the GPG, where people consistently trot out the same non supportive mantra focused on the same targets. When on the Ealing Road terrace I could move, now I am fortunate to be with a lot of like minded supportive Bees.
Empty vessels make the most noise..
Great message, let’s hope it gets across too the minority. Last week one of our group had to dig out a supporter for constantly slating Jensen. How silly did he feel when he got motm.
Very interesting article written by JL
Sadly very true, we have a group behind us in the south stand in their teens who constantly call out players But the true fans who know the the depths from which our club has risen know what a fabulous journey we are on
It feels like some in our support lack a bit of perspective, I still find it amazing that we are in the position we are in. We should be celebrating, not criticising. Where I’m frustrated is that it would take so little extra going in our favour for us to be comfortable in this league, it’s so close. The management and team have done amazingly to be in this position with by far the lowest wage bill in the league, fingers crossed that we finish with a flourish.
Good article and finally some sense on this topic. I don’t hear it so much at the ground, but good grief are there some on twitter who fit the mold you’ve described. These people’s understanding of football seems to be so patchy I do wonder how much of the game they actually watch. The most recent target seems to be Phil Giles, who (Benham aside) probably deserves the most credit for getting this club to where it is now. Yes, not signing a RB/RWB was an oversight, but seeing him criticised for not listening to the calls to “pay Forest whatever they want!!!!” for Brennan Johnson makes my blood boil. If the club was ran the way these boo boys wanted it to be, we’d be in administration in 6 months
Im with you Joel,how on earth those prats on twatter can slag off PG for trying to spend around 38 mill on three players ,one a full/ wing back is beyond me,MB must be so disappointed with the reaction by some of our fans,without his input we would have been National league or worse .Southend or Bury anyone?
I fear the only people who will read this are the converted, those who gripe and vent and hate I think will not waste a moment reading this, because they feel they are right and justified. I always feared a step up to the Prem, I was worried it would change us irreversibly, and that we would see more hate and anger and entitlement….this has not happened completely, but I do keep MUTING and muting and muting people who seem to have removed all joy from the game, and speak about our players with such hatred, I can’t bare it, and in our first year in the prem, I am considering waking away from football all together, as I just feel the hatred is swallowing us up. It’s entertainment and pride and togetherness, or it should be, I feel alienated for much of our fab base and it sickens me. This is not going away, but I hope messages like this, if flooding social media will help to change, so let’s stay positive.
It’s easy to laugh, it’s easy to hate, it takes strength to be gentle and kind
Stay strong
Brilliant article Jim my thoughts completely to see our team walk out at Man City bought tears to my eyes and then to hold our own against a team with such illustrious players was amazing it’s been a wonderful season whatever happens keep up the good work
Good blog ,in the west stand I haven’t heard any insults directed at players or manager ,it’s been full on support ,what other teams does a lap of honour after a defeat …we are bees /and most like me me started in div 4 with graham and cross then bill came and got the light that’s never gone out …premier was a dream
It came true !amazing
Fantastic article.
I’ve muted or blocked more people on Twitter this season than ever before due to the negative and sometimes down right abusive comments from apparent “fans” and usually alway cited at the same easy targets!
I’ve been to games with my son (11) who idealises the players (as we all did in our youth – and still do to a point) and had to answer some uncomfortable questions from him on the things he hears at the ground and it’s very upsetting that his idols, the same great players who got us to the Prem, are having quite frankly appalling thing shouted to them and I’m trying to explain why some people think this level of abuse is acceptable.
There is no quick fix but keeping our next generation informed as to WHY this is so unacceptable is key.
As always COME ON YOU BEES!
That’s mainly because Canos is shit and we can all see it, but try to excuse with the nonsense that he tries hard. It was bollocks when people said it about Booker and it’s stillnonsense when people say it about Canos.
Bob Booker left Brentford to play in a league of far higher standard and like Canos played his heart out in numerous positions for the club in detriment to his own career.
Canos always gives his all and has played out of position all season for the team, there is nobody better at Brentford for this position.
Canos may well give his all, but 100% of not very good, is not very good. As it was Bob Booker. Nice guy again but not a footballer.
Try telling that to Sheffield United fans who still worship the man who helped inspire them on their journey from the third to the first division.
He is a total hero and legend up there who recognise his inspirational performances on the pitch and his worth as a clubman.
This league teases out and targets weaknesses. We cannot afford the complete package in most positions, so it is a battle between us emphasising our strengths against those targeting our weaknesses. I admire Sergio, not because of his heart, but because he offers a lot, and is a much better wing back than many . Like all our squad (and most of the prem) there are flaws. But courtesy prohibits an honest comment on anyone who calls him shit.
Dont worry, you are entitled to opinion on Sergi, but again i dont think he is very good and will never be very good.
However, if you disagree we will agree to disagree and I will carry on sharing my thoughts freely as I hope will you.
Have a good day.
Thank the Lord I don’t do Twitter.
Thank you Jim Levack. It may not help too much but can you copy and paste this onto the GPG?
Great article Jim and thanks for voicing the thoughts of so many of us so clearly and thoughtfully.
I think one of the greatest compliments we could have had this Season is that many of the players in the League don’t want to see us go down as we are an example of what small clubs can do if they have the spirit, skill, tenacity and determination to achieve it. I’m so proud of our wonderful club and all the players who may have off days but always give their best ❤️
I saw this on Twitter and read it to pass a few minutes waiting for my kids at school. As a Wolves fan I know that clubs haven’t always seen eye to eye this season but your manager seems like a really good man and your club seems progressive and set up for a really good go at staying up. We have finished 7th twice, sem finals of FA cup, qf of Europa League yet Twitter is full of all the things the board hasn’t done, how we don’t score enough goals etc. Understanding the structure of the PL and that you can’t get instant success seemed to escape some shall we say more recent supporters at games and that actually having a well structured club with a good manger who isn’t going to sail the long term future of your club down an unnavigable river is a lot to celebrate.
What utter bollocks
What a really thoughtful reply. That must have taken ages of real consideration!
”Benham out” there ,does that make you feel any better John?
Not in the slightest. Benham has been incredible for our club. Canos has been bang average but tries.
Good thats cleared that up,bottom line is john if Benham and the management team rate Canos (yes he can be very frustrating at times}thats good enough for me and most Bees fans.
Then you think Benham never makes a mistake and there in lies your problem. Just remember Marinus. Benham is human and gets it wrong, and the club and wildly wrong on Canos.
John, you are shit and talking utter bollocks.
He’s actually not. MB does make mistakes, he’s also a gambler but the time for having a vicious and vitrolic pop (if you want to) is at the end of the season if we don’t stay up. I think we will, but agree we should have strengthened, but not at any cost. That’s the problem.
Thanks Rob, you are of course entitled to your opinion and as far as I am concerned allowed yo express it any way you feel.
But what is your point?
You can have an opinion, sure…. but are you getting defensive on this article, because it is saying why attack personally the players in question? Either with loud vitriolic abuse when tehy come off, or online?
No one is saying you can’t think a player is crap, but what is your point with regard to the article?
my point in reference to this article is twofold.
1. Canos is shit. You may not like that opinion but it is an entirely valid opinion based on how he has been for far too much of his Brentford career. He may be a nice chap, he may be passionate and he may even try, but truth is he struggles to pass to his own team, cant cross the ball very well and chooses the wrong option far too often.
2. The article is a load of nonsense and Jim should stick to attacking fans on twitter when they state simple facts but not being negative. Such as how long ago we last lost this many games in a row. Jim should know better apparently but instead he is being full of his own opinion. which is of course allowed, but hey Jim will always be Jim.
But no one is saying you can’t think or discuss these things, so it comes across as a bit disingenuous no?
So from your clear disapproval of the article, you are basically saying you are the angry guy who has to scream and shout at our own players? Either on twitter or from the stands?
90% of the people around you are quite ashamed of this behaviour, and raise questions about your behaviour in your home life. Do you do this at work, if someone gets something wrong?
It just oversteps the line, and wouldn’t work anywhere else.
I’m all for banter, rude chants and even winding up opposition players which others might say cross the line. But I have never understood our own fans attacking specific players, when objectively they’ve done OK. What a great way to get an extra 5% out them…
I’ve been in the paddock watching men (who seem themselves nothing to write home about) getting apopleptic when a player miscontrols the ball or whatever, and I, like most around me think, jeeze. Feel sorry for his wife, sort of thing.
Great “support”. I bet our player is really motivated to “be better”
Do you do it because you think you will get a better performance out of them? Do you do it because you are angry? Or do you do it because you think Benham might hear you and get on the phone to Phil Giles or what?
and when i say winding up opposition players, i mean like proper rude abusive stuff hahaha. But our own players? What is the point.
I’ve been a player, and you do hear it. You aren’t some superhuman. And it doesn’t have the motivational impact you think it does…
It’s lazy “I know what I’m talking about” attacks. Funny how Jensen and Canos are seemingly always the target, but never Janelt whose form has been found wanting in the last month. Just one example but it seems to be the “fan favourites” getting a bit of a free ride and some others taking the full brunt of ill-thought-out reactive criticisms.
And I completely agree with the FIFA element. Lots of “gotta play 4 at the back” without any real knowledge of how much work it takes with both individuals and teams to implement a system. It’s not just pick the squad Football Manager style and go into a game.
A true journalist. Write an engaging article, and spoil it with silly attention grabbing headline. I regret the behaviour, though it is nothing new. But it is not ASBO territory
Just for your future ref – The journalist writes the copy but rarely writes the headline. I didn’t write this one.
For what it’s worth the headline has grabbed attention from all sides so arguably it’s worked.
A roise by any other name might smell as sweet, but isn’t quite the clickbait required
Jim. Thank you for clarification on the first point, so apologies offered. As to the second, that would be justification for some pretty naff clickbait, so cannot agree with you there.
I’m a new fan i admit, but someone who goes deep into the history of the club and understand we should appriciate massively what is going on right now
Nothing wrong with people venting their frustration over potentially losing our premier league status.The real viterol should lay with the D.O.F ,not Frank particularly (although he should in my opinion mix the formation up a little) or even the players.For example, It’s not Canos’s fault he isn’t quite prem standard and his efforts are valiant and his commitment is faultless.Not replacing Daalsguard and sending Forrs and Thompson out on loan is debatable
and questionable in any right minded persons thinking.People are entitled to their opinions- It’s fans that make football.For what it’s worth I think we will stay up-just and mainly due to our form early season. But we need to re evaluate in the summer and they need to recruit well and clear out some of the dead wood.
That would be the Dof that had bids of around 38 mill on the table Mark.
Can ‘ an attention grabbing headline ‘ be silly ?
I sit firmly with those who are over the moon with where we are now and I fail to see how vitriolic attacks
on any of our players is any thing other than harmful,not only to that player but to the team in general.
This nonsense could also effect future signings. How often have we heard a new signing say that they spoke to a former player “who had nothing but good things to say about Brentford” and that this was influential in their decision to join Brentford. I’d like to think that those statements were genuine and
not just made to ingratiate them with their new club. Lets not forget a few of our recent signings, Ollie Watkins included were also sought by higher profile clubs when signed by Brentford.
We sit in the corner near the away fans and have been there every week and I can quite comfortably say there hasn’t been much negativity towards the players.
I whole heartedly agree with everything you’ve said but also believe as a pundit Richard’s is paid for and opinion, at least Piers Morgan isn’t on our backs.
I was dismayed watching the Everton fans after the match, despite their troubles they behaved disgustingly. We must also learn from others, that wasn’t right or what football is about.
One thing is for sure, our players are giving it everything they’ve got. That might not provide a positive outcome but I’ve got some memories this season that will live with me until my last days.
Could do without those blooming green lines!
Mmm…the sociological and psychological reasons why grow men snd women expend so much time, money and unthinking time on football is beyond me. But they do. And for different reasons. Some are cheerful and positive. Some are angry and negative. I respect em all. Except for the woke folk who just want to cancel opinions. Of course Canos is rubbish. He’s not an athlete. He can’t strike the ball consistently. He’s often caught out of position. And when he receives the ball in tight situations he’s unable to find a good pass. If the Bees manage to stay up, he’ll be gone in the summer. My own pet hate is BLM / TtK…its gotta end now surely. Am I allowed to say that?
Excellent piece. I’ve felt really uneasy at times this season with the way players have been ‘gone for’. It becomes a bandwagon frighteningly quick.
I guess a lot of it comes down to emotion now. The stakes are so high that these fans in question just don’t know how to deal with the stresses of the Premier League.
Whilst only 33, thankfully I grew up with Brentford sides where to be frank most fans didn’t really care that much with performances.
Back the team – it’s so obvious.